California officials ponder all-mail voting
By Christopher Cadelago, Sacramento Bee
When all the ballots are finally tallied from this month’s election, the proportion of Californians voting by mail is expected to break the record set in 2012, the first time more than half of the state’s electorate voted absentee.
The uptick has more Californians pushing for the state to go all the way and ditch traditional polling places. Washington, Colorado and Oregon require all of their elections to be run entirely by mail, and at least 19 others permit some of their elections to be all mail, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
County elections officials have touted the potential increase in voter interest and significant savings from avoiding the task of recruiting and training polling place workers. And some believe an all-mail system could even help speed up and avoid some overtime ballot-counting.
“I say, ‘yes, please,’” said Jill LaVine, the registrar of voters in Sacramento County. “I would love to go all vote-by-mail.”
Just tonight on the news, the people who are still counting (!) the mail-in ballots were complaining about people using pencil when it says to use pen.
Then there was the Project Veritas video about people suggesting that if mail-in ballots are sent in error, you should just fill them in and vote for those people (in Colorado) because, well, why not?
And there’s the fact that I registered to vote in my new home state more than 2 years ago, notified CA that I was no longer a resident, yet they STILL send ballots to me at the old address. Because everything California does is SO efficient.
I shred those California ballots, but I wonder how many others are going to people who are no longer eligible to vote in California, and how many of those ballots get used illegally?
Yeah, voting by mail is a fine idea. For cheaters.
Love it.
My dog and cat are now registered.
A few fraudulent votes won’t make
any difference.
Who needs ID, not my dog and cat.
Check it out. Fido Dogg Jones and
Freda Kat Wilson have been voting
for years. They are registered
independents but vote green.
Voting our most precious right and
no effort to insure only citizens
vote.
Widespread voter fraud is highly exaggerated.
http://brennan.3cdn.net/c176576c0065a7eb84_gxm6ib0hl.pdf
It is possible that this myth is spread to promote efforts to suppress voters.
The Brennan Center from NYU is a far left propaganda outlet for covering up widespread voter fraud and anything else the lefty totalitarians need excuses for.
Find an unbiased source to validate your position.
Legal: Pretty much all analysis has shown voter fraud to be low, except where Republicans have passes voter ID laws that has actually disenfranchised thousands of legal voters.
Oregon has very low voter fraud and has done very well with mail in ballots.
Rick
‘Disenfranchised’ thousands of voters?? Only the illegal ones.
You need an ID to do anything in this country. Cash a check, buy a beer. Are you saying that some potential voters are too stupid to get an ID? That sounds racist to me. And elitist.
Mail in voting certainly increases the potential for fraud. Even though I told California years ago that I was no longer living or voting in the state, they STILL send an absentee ballot to my old address. No potential for fraud there, huh?
Those ballots get shredded. But I wonder how many thousands of others are they sending that should have been expunged years ago??
Voter fraud is statistically non-existent. Easily researched and validated. Election fraud and voter suppression however are major problems created by those that moronically support the oligarchy and vote against their own best interests.
And dogula, thanks again for leaving, one less sociopathic greedbag is always good for the state.
Tell that to Angela or Al Franken, Kev, or Martha McSally.
legal beagle, thanks for identifying yourself as one of the oligarchs dupes.
Impossible for some people to make a comment without hurling a nasty, unnecessary insult as well, huh?
Speaks volumes about you, not about me, Kevin.
Dogula, the shoe fits, wear it.
Kevin, your statistically irrelevant according to your logic?
I know Dogula,
It’s amazing the inability of some to just make a point, without hurling personal insults towards the individual with whom they disagree. If they actually had confidence in what they say, they wouldn’t feel the need to do that.
Parker, your need to feel picked on is a really pathetic character trait called persecution complex, that is common in people of your political persuasion.
I’m always confident that you and dogula are wrong because…you always are.
I don’t feel picked on at all Kevin! It’s just perplexing that those that try to act so intellectually superior, expose that they are not when they engage in their childish name calling.
Again, if you actually had confidence in your arguments, you would simply make them. And not act like you’re in the 4th grade.
It’s a fact that Wyoming was the first state to get rid of the all male vote… The cowboys went home and told their wives they were happy about the decision because now they had two votes!!!!!
It is interesting that so-called Libertarians want freedom from big Gubment EXCEPT with regards to Voter ID then suddenly EVERYONE has to have a Photo ID to vote.
First, the Constitution does not mention or require a Photo ID to live, breath or vote. This is not “elitist” it is a simple fact:
Article 1, Section 2.
Clause 1: Composition and election of Members
The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.
14th Amendment (ratified 1868)
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws…
15th Amendment (ratified 1870)
Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation
19th Amendment – (ratified 1919).
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
24th Amendment (ratified 1964).
Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
26th Amendment (ratified 1971)
Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
The 24th Amendment seems clear to me. Any sort of Photo ID that requires the Voter to pay any sum of money i.e. the ID itself, birth certificates/copies, travel & mileage to other counties or States to acquire said “ID” is a Poll Tax.
Whoopee, you learned how to cut and paste.
NONE of that has anything to do with showing an ID to vote. None of it.
“NONE of that has anything to do with showing an ID to vote. None of it.”
Dogula, I think that is the exact point Rock was trying to make.
Oh, and would you rather him paraphrase the Constitution than copy/paste?
The paper I linked to has over 200 citations, at least 50 of them are unique. It is pretty thorough. Dismissing it because of how you perceive the publisher is pretty lazy.
How many other studies can we find that show that voter fraud is statistically insignificant.
Find something as broad as the paper I found that contradicts it.
Correct me if I am wrong. Legal beagle has admitted to committing a crime(Voter fraud).
I believe that is a felony. Let me see…I think that impacts the legality of his owning firearms.