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Tahoe area OHV riders seek more access


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By Kathryn Reed

Look outside – that’s why the U.S. Forest Service doesn’t open all trails in April – especially ones that allow motorized vehicles.

Last week a group of off-highway vehicle enthusiasts gathered at the South Lake Tahoe Forest Service office to talk about how best to maintain the roads, suggest ways for user groups to work together and offer ideas to the Forest Service. Users included four-wheelers, all terrain vehicle riders and dirt bikers.

One thing many advocated for was access when spring arrives even if the calendar says winter. But it was pointed out that the storm that arrived Sunday, which was in the forecast days in advance, was reason alone to limit access.

“Gates are closed for resource reasons,” Jacob Quinn with the Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit told Lake Tahoe News. This includes critters nesting, and other fauna and flora considerations that go beyond looking at whether the ground is dry.

Users said if the sand pits and Twin Peaks on the outskirts of South Lake Tahoe were open now, it might curtail the illegal activity that is going in places like Upper Kingsbury Grade. People are going around the gate off Andria Drive.

“They are running it like crazy right now,” Frank Machler, USFS law enforcement officer, said. “They are there illegally. We are trying to get a handle on it.”

One person suggested a few boulders and better signage. Signs may come later in the summer.

Those in the room want to be stewards of the land, including helping with trail maintenance. Much like the mountain bike community in the past few years has partnered with the USFS, the same goes for the motorized recreation community.

The Forest Service has actively been applying for grants from California and Nevada entities with the goal of helping make improvements for off-roaders.

With the Forest Service unable to be on every trail, the feds welcome input from users about what they see so improvements or enforcement can be more immediate.

The users spoke about how they often take apart illegal campfire rings. Fire is a concern for them, whether it’s from illegal fires or their vehicles. Most who belong to organized riding groups have spark arresters on their vehicles and carry fire extinguishers.

Vegetation will be abnormally dry this summer because of the lack of snow. Safety is an issue especially when it comes to those in the backcountry knowing about dangerous conditions – something like last fall’s King Fire. Cell phone service is usually non-existent so the use of ham radios is often used.

Later this year the LTBMU will be revising the motor use map. Public comments will be solicited in the fall.

“That’s our legal document for when we can open and close gates,” Quinn said. “The idea is to improve accuracy. That is the point of the revision.”

Forest Service employees suggested users pay attention this season to what improvements they would like so they can be brought up in the form of a comment down the road, with the goal of its being addressed with the revised document. This would be the time to ask for more regulated fire pits with the goal of fewer illegal ones being built.

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  1. Steven says - Posted: April 6, 2015

    Signs don’t work, people just ignore them.
    Fire pits ? Are they nuts ? No fires in the backcountry during these drought conditions.
    Forest service law enforcement, pretty much non existent. If they know of people, “They are running it like crazy right now,”, then station someone there and catch and fine them and confiscate their vehicles. You know, like the cop behind the billboard. Fines need to be large enough to hurt, and no slap on the wrist for “first timers “.
    Best idea, ban OHV from the Tahoe Basin !

  2. fifty year resident says - Posted: April 6, 2015

    I disagree with the concept of fines as they accomplish nothing. As an active ATV enthusiast I would suggest than the rule breakers spend 6 months of weekends or days off doing some work rehabilitating trails or other projects that help to maintain the environment. Thus they may have a little more appreciation for what we all want to protect.

    I think some sweet equity is what is called for in these cases. Fines they just write checks and then regret that they got caught and they learn nothing.

  3. Steven says - Posted: April 6, 2015

    Repairing damage or working on maintaining the trails should be included in all cases. But fines work. And also putting violations on driving records would be a big plus, just like running a red light or speeding. Insurance companies would love to see the violations.

  4. AROD says - Posted: April 6, 2015

    Sweat equity not sweet, ruining not running. This ATV crowd has proven time and time again they are not stewards of the land. With the drought, no off roading this year.

  5. Dale says - Posted: April 6, 2015

    I agree with 50 and Steven in regards that steep fines and required trail crew work must be part of the “punishment” Fines hurt the pocketbook and trail work teaches respect for the trail. I have volunteered to build trails here in the basin It is hard work yet the rewards are great. You have a better understanding of what causes damage to the trails and it has increased my stewardship by educating those who I hike and ride with.

    ATVers should really not feel as if they being singled out.Mountain bike riders have experienced the similar restrictions in the back country. Through organizations that work with the various agencies and increased stewardship with peer education conditions have improved and some of the restrictions have been relaxed. I am aware that ATV’ers have groups and organizations of activists. Perhaps now is the time for them to increase their efforts to show they care and police themselves.

  6. Cranky Gerald says - Posted: April 6, 2015

    Steven-

    Your comment to begin putting essentially trespassing violations on Drivers license records is very misguided and would set a dangerous precedent.

    Should the city cite a business owner for signage violations and put a trumped charge on driving record?

    Should failure to maintain your landscaping go on your driving record?

    Your driving record should only track violations of the motor vehicle code and nothing else.

  7. duke of prunes says - Posted: April 6, 2015

    Violations while driving a vehicle going on a vehicle license is pretty reasonable. Your other situations are a real stretch.

  8. greengrass says - Posted: April 6, 2015

    “Violations while driving a vehicle going on a vehicle license is pretty reasonable” Good idea. If you get too many violations, you can’t ride anymore. Hit the destructive people hard with fines, they deserve to pay to fix the damage they caused. For one’s who don’t cause issues, I say let them keep riding. There’s no reason to ban the sport and anger the people who are just having a good time and taking care of the land. IMHO, the way to go is to figure out a way to stop the destructive careless people, while still allowing the others to ride.

  9. Dogula says - Posted: April 6, 2015

    I’ve always been of the opinion that each driver needs to be issued a half dozen ‘stupid stickers’. When you’re driving and somebody does something stooooopid, like cut you off with an illegal left turn, or run a stop sign, you shoot his vehicle with a stupid sticker. Car gets 3 stupid stickers, it’s off the road.
    Seems like it’d work for off-road vehicles too.

  10. greengrass says - Posted: April 6, 2015

    LOL @Dogula. That’s not a half bad idea. “Stupid stickers” I like this one.

  11. fifty year resident says - Posted: April 10, 2015

    When people are fined. It does nothing to rehabilitate the damage caused to the environment. All the money does is feed our government bureaucracy.

    California established registration requirements for off road vehicles with the intent of using those funds to maintain trials and signage to inform off road users about the trails and the appropriate uses.

    During the recession Jerry Brown took all of those funds and used them for something else. New fees and new taxes for special uses just end up getting sucked into a big slush fund to be spent on things we don’t need at a later date