3 Mo’s Place bouncers accused of killing patron


Nearly one year after Derek “Zippy” Penaranda was beaten at Mo’s Place, three people have been accused of killing him.

Penaranda, who was from Ripon, was on the South Shore in May 2012 to celebrate his 30th birthday. He got in a fight at the South Lake Tahoe bar. He never recovered from the injuries he sustained. He died in October.

“Since the emergency room at Barton, I knew Zip wouldn’t be coming home,” Wayne Penaranda told Lake Tahoe News last fall.

Derek "Zippy" Penaranda and Katie Musselwhite had hoped to one day marry. Photo/Provided

Derek “Zippy” Penaranda and Katie Musselwhite had hoped to one day marry. Photo/Provided

He was cautious at the time with what he wanted to release to the media regarding his son’s death and the criminal investigation. Since Day 1 he said he had been working with El Dorado County Deputy District Attorney Joe Alexander.

Penaranda was not available to speak of the proceedings that occurred this week.

The grand jury indictments leveled against the accused – Rodolfo Hernandez, 44, Sean Canilao, 48, and Ruben Lizzaragga (age unknown) – have been sealed by El Dorado County Superior Court Judge James Wagoner. These three worked as bouncers at the bar.

Hernandez was in custody on involuntary manslaughter charges with bail set at $50,000. However, there is an immigration hold on him. Arrest warrants are out for the other two.

For now the case is being heard in Placerville, though it could be moved to South Lake Tahoe. That may be decided on May 3.

– Lake Tahoe News staff report

 

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  1. Biggerpicture says - Posted: April 17, 2013

    All right!

    Good job!

    Now the community would be best served to let justice take it’s course, and let this be tried in the court house, not the comment forum courtroom.

  2. MTT says - Posted: April 17, 2013

    Very sad, This is the man who (knocked out) The Mo’s Place owner
    “When officers arrived, they learned that the business owner had been punched and knocked unconscious by a patron who had been asked to leave the establishment due to unruly conduct”

    I understand they have Video of the altercation. I trust a jury to review the evidence and come to a fair conclusion.

  3. Digital Content says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    Is i true that one of the suspected murderers, Hernandez, is a an illegal alien?

  4. john says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    Wow illegal aliens. Why were they even workn for Mo instead of a local that pays taxes. Somebody should look into Mo’s hiring practices.
    N just because mo got knocked out by the guy doesnt excuse the fact that at least three men jumped him and beat him after he was on the ground knocked out and on his way to death.
    Mos needs to be boycotted for having illegals run his show. All to save some money.

  5. 4-mer-usmc says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    So Hernandez has an immigration hold on him and Lizzaragga’s age is unknown. Doesn’t sound like any kind of legal personnel hiring practices were complied with or the required personnel records were kept. Demonstrates a lack of willingness to adhere to existing laws and makes one wonder what other shortcuts were sanctioned.

    To add to this, the Slowrollers Bike Club as the organizers of the “Spirit Parade” has designated Mo’s Place as the concluding location of their May 16th bike ride. This appears inappropriate in light of what happened to Mr. Penaranda at that establishment one year ago in May and I’d sure like to know if the Slowrollers Bike Club designated that location in memory of Mr. Penaranda or if this location was selected in support of Mo. Selecting that location just seems wrong and could provide the appearance that the Slowrollers Bike Club, the parade participants, and our community as a whole is heartless and classless.

  6. Alex Campbell says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    Did i miss the name of the owner/owners of Mo’s Place ?

  7. ljames says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    I think “Bigger Picture” has it right here – and anyone’s immigration status here is pretty irrelevant to the situation I would say!

  8. Digital Content says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    Ljames, Really, not relevant, how so? Consider this;

    If he was not here he would not have been involved in the murder.

    That seems relevant to me.

  9. FRANK SINATRA says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    This tragedy is much like the boy’s in my day. If we didn”t agree to someones point of view. Well we ratch em. You know…. Scuff em up a little. But we did not take em out enless they didn’t leave a tip.

  10. 30yrlocal says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    This is still so sad and tragic and I hope that this recent legal action will help Zippy’s family in knowing that people do care.

    On the illegal part…most businesses do due diligence in their hiring practices. Get paperwork completed, process their I-9s and turn it in as required. The problem is that people use fake ID and social security numbers that aren’t their own. It will be caught in the process but the illegal person may have been working for weeks (or months if they are behind, who knows?). Tax paying businesses and those that do this process can still get stung with hiring an illegal person.

  11. amanda says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    there are several steps that shouldve been taken by these disgusting accused people. they didn’t follow proper conduct of removing someone from a bar. they had no regard for derek’s well-being, nor for lawful conduct of how to handle that atrocious situation. they need to receive the toughest punishment. they took a man’s life, and are running around free. justice must be served for Zippy and his amazing family that’s had to endure something no family should ever have to endure. i am utterly disgusted with these bouncer’s ideas of how to unlawfully handle a situation, and take a young man’s life. justice shall be served for Derek.

  12. Luv 4 zip says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    he was asked to leave. but when the owner didnt want to give him his credit card back that was on tab because he was drunk Zip punched him once and the owner got knocked out. dont mean bouncers needed to beat him to death….. I hope to stop in tahoe when mo’s gets changed to Zippys :) and have a drink .

  13. Melissa says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    Rip Zippy… Our 18year friendship ended far to soon. We all miss and love you! Xoxo

  14. Common Sense says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    Sucks someone died, but EVERYONE involved was a bunch of idiots that night, including the people that let it happen.

  15. Chief Slowroller says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    Yo Sarge

    I picked Mo’s place for the end of the Spirit Parade

    Mo has helped us with many of our events and everyone had a good time

    this poor guy that got beat to death,
    well drunk and stupid is know way to go thru life

    I belive that if you were at his home bar and it happened to you they would have just drug you out to the ally and left ya

    but the Parade is all about celebrating the Spirit of bicycling

    it will be safe we have the Fireman and the Police dept. in the Parade

    so I invite all of you folks to join in the Parade and have a good time

  16. ripon native says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    Justice for Zippy ♥♥♥♥

  17. Dude says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    Hey Chief

    That’s no way to approach this situation. No need to insult someone who no longer can defend themselves.

    Just because he was drunk doesn’t mean he deserved to lose his life. If Mo or whoever runs that joint had hired properly licensed security personnel this wouldn’t be an issue as they would have removed ‘Zippy’ from the situation and waited for police to arrive. Unfortunately the establishment felt it necessary to skirt the law. All you have to do is call these guys floor staff or something, as long as you don’t call them security they don’t have to be properly trained.

    If you want to end your ride at Mo’s that’s your right and perogative, but just know that a lot of people view that location in a negative light now. I know I haven’t been back there since this incident and it used to be one of my favorite bars in town.

  18. Nomadman says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    Yo Chief

    Maybe you should get some facts before you have diarrhea of the mouth again. Zippy was celebrating his birthday, that’s why he had too much to drink. This was not standard behavior for him.
    The thugs that Mo has working for him deserve prison time for this, but sadly they probably won’t get any.
    The best thing that could happen to Mo’s Place is that it shuts down because no one goes there anymore. That would be a good way for the people of South Lake Tahoe to say “This kind of behavior will not be tolerated in our town.”

  19. Summer says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    It is my understanding that this was not the first incident at Mo’s Place. Let’s hope it is the last.I hope when all is said and done he will be closed for good!

  20. 4-mer-usmc says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    Chief Slowroller:

    I find your remarks incredulous. How could you comment that “I believe that if you were at his home bar and it happened to you they would have just drug you out to the ally and left ya”? What is wrong with you? What type of world do you live in? While it is your prerogative to support Mo Patel, you certainly don’t speak for the community of South Lake Tahoe and certainly not for me, and I want to assure individuals not living in South Lake Tahoe but reading this blog that not everyone living in this community possesses the same opinions, mindset, or insensitivity of this self-proclaimed “Chief”.

    Think what you’d like Chief Slowroller, but YOUR misguided decision to select Mo’s Place for the ending destination of the Spirit Parade is in poor taste, completely inappropriate, and disrespectful, especially since the date that you selected for this event is nearly on the anniversary date that this crime occurred at Mo’s Place which led to the end of Mr. Penaranda’s life.

    The Spirit Parade has heretofore been a virtuous community bicycling event in which parents and their children have participated, and it is my hope that the people in our community who truly enjoy the spirit of bicycling will demonstrate their spirit of sensitivity and good judgment and not follow you in your exploitation of this event so you can validate your personal support to Mo Patel.

  21. girl sally says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    I understand he was celebrating his birthday…which means the bartender knew how much he was drinking. When asked to leave there was an altercation. So hold him until the police arrive,,,, I know that he was being beaten while on the ground,,, and they didn’t let anyone close to him to help him.once it was obvious he wasn’t breathing.. Shame on you Mo for not having trained people in your place to know how to properply handle a situation….an illegal alien what the hell….. Mo you should be held responsible for the people that work for you. I hope they close you down and you live everyday with the memory of a life you helped take away. No granchildren…no marriage.. no life.gone!…Shame on you!! Makes me sick and reminds me of all the other sickening crimes out there.You and your place fall in that category. I know justice will prevail.

  22. Bo Scant says - Posted: April 18, 2013

    If Zippy had friends at the bar, they failed him.
    Zippy was in the wrong. The owner handled the situation wrong. The Bouncers went too far. Everyone involved is responsible for the death, including Zippy. This could have been avoided on all levels. Sad.

    Every bar should have loyal employees that have your back. But they should also know when to hold back or when to say enough.

    My heart goes out to all involved who’s live are now forever changed.

  23. riponite says - Posted: April 19, 2013

    @ bo scant.. he did have friends with him that night and for u to say they failed him is a lie! His other brother almost died trying to defend him. Those bouncers beat them both and if it wasn’t for some stranger in the crowd pulling him out and helping him breath he would be in the same boat as his brother. How dare u say they failed him. U know nothing! All u know is what u have read in the papers which is not much info. Everyone with him that night loved him so much and tried to help but when its 3 on 1 its not very good odds. Maybe u all should get ur facts straight before u say anything.

  24. Joe Plante says - Posted: April 19, 2013

    It’s a bar. To put blame on a patron for being drunk is ridiculous. I’ve worked as a bouncer for years and there isn’t a single night that you aren’t dealing with drunk patrons. In fact THAT is why you are employed to be there. What happened to Zippy is deplorable. Justice needs to be served, to the floor staff and the idiot who was in charge of them.

  25. Kristin Ellenburg says - Posted: April 19, 2013

    Rest in peace my friend. I pray every day that justice prevails and the animals responsible for you not being with us anymore pay for their actions.

  26. Officer Omalley says - Posted: April 19, 2013

    Riponite! It is alright for you to feel the way you do. Glad you loved Zippy. No man has to be beaten by men who were not even drunk. There were other alternatives. It is learned that the bouncers were illegal alliens who had no right to work at a establishment without a green card and proof of social security.Rest assure that Moe will blow as his establishment will be turned over to Zippy’s loved ones. A new name is coming (Zippys Place)

  27. Patrick Penaranda says - Posted: April 20, 2013

    Hi my name is Patrick Penaranda. Little brother to Derek “ZIPPY” Penaranda

    My brother was asked to leave the bar for for taking his shirt off. Not because he was a drunk [jerk]. I saw him outside the bar and he asked if I could go in with him so he could close his tab. I said yes of course. We went in and stood in line to close out his tab and leave. He was a little upset because Mo had previously crossed words with him early that night and had said some insulting things to him. My brother knocked him out, broke his face and put him in a short lived coma. Was Zip wrong in that, yes. Did the staff have a right to detain him , yes. Did they have right to kill him, no.

    When the fight broke out, I ran for Zippy as any brother would do. I was instantly knocked out by another patron who struck me across the head with a beer bottle. When I came to, my brother was beside me getting beaten, not restrained by at least four or more people. I instantly jumped up to defend him. Within a flash I was beat by four staff members. I screamed ” I haven’t done anything!” One man looked me in the eye ant told me to shut the —- up. he kicked me directly in the throat and then proceeded to stomp my face with his boot. I then noticed Zippy unconscious next to me as he was still receiving a beating. I heard people screaming, he needs CPR. One yelled let me help him. At that point another staff member chased away citizens who where willing to help. He had threatened them with a taser.

    I saw my brothers lifeless body lay next to me.I Tried desperately to save him. So did his friends and other patrons They could not get him because of the man with a taser.

    At that point instinct kicked in. I had a blood fury seeing my dead brothers body next to mine. Keep in mind I was attacked by a patron and received a beating from the staff for it. Instead of there protection. I was able to fight of two staff members before they where able to begin beating me for a second time. I tried with my life to save my brother. They continued to beat me and kick my face. Two men tried breaking my arm. When they realized I was tough as nails they held me down and tried to choke me to death. A young lady in the crowd ran forward and laid her head next to mine as I was being choked and kicked. She told me to try and stay calm, she moved her hand up and down in a slow rhythm and told me to breath at that pace so I would not panic and choke to death. Ultimately that saved my life.

    As I sit here in tears, reading what bad things people have to say about what happen. I can only think of how the last person my brother ever talked to was me. He asked me to help him. And I Quote Zippy – “Brother, help me”

    I tried brother, I tried with my very life.

    When I think of Zippy the first memory that comes to mind Is painful. It is the memory of me having to step over my dead brother as I was being arrested for- Getting knocked out by a patron and beat by the staff

    Zippy was dead on the seen only to be revived into a vegetative state coma that eventually killed him again. He was beat to death on his 30th birthday next to his little brother, beside his love and in front of friends being kept back by a man with a taser.

  28. TheresaC says - Posted: April 20, 2013

    I’ve known zippy for many years and have partied with him plenty of times. He was always a fun, kind, gentle and funny person! Mo had no right to keep his credit card, he’s a thief and deserved to be punched! Did it really take three men to remove a person who had to much to drink (on his birthday) were they such pansies that they had to beat him to death and not let anyone help him! RIP zippy and those men deserve life in prison, death penalty, to burn in hell

  29. Laketoohigh says - Posted: April 20, 2013

    Over serving ANY patron of a bar should be a Felony. Owning a bar means you have a social responsibility to monitor your patrons and have a staff that is trained. The ATF should confiscate the liquor license ASAP. No racial slur intended, but this is not Mumbia. Business is not just about how to beat the system to turn a profit. Have a sense of community here. Running motels means you need to keep up the outside too. Running bars means training the staff. Clean this mess up Patels. You are some if the nicest people I know. Think hard about public opinion.

  30. Victoria Moore says - Posted: April 20, 2013

    We have known Wayne & Debbie Penaranda For many years. Our children went to school together & played Base ball for yrs. & our Sons played in a ban together too. The Penaranda’s are a close & Loving family. They are respected by many. This is truly a shocking tragedy of Zippy’s Murder!! I pray that all evidence is shown & heard & the Truth Is Seen… Then the people responsible will be held accountable for their actions… Only then can this Family start the healing process… My heart and prayers go out for ZIPPY’S Family… Wayne, Debbie, Marshall & Patrick. There are so many people out there with love in our Hearts for you all….Keep the Faith…. We will get justice for ZIPPY…………

  31. S Mercer says - Posted: April 22, 2013

    I saw a comment that read. “If this happened in Our town, they would have left a person in an ally to die” So not true! If a person didnt co-operate the police would have been called. We here in Ripon are not heartless people. Ive been here since the early 60′s never heard of anyone being ganged up on. removed from the bar yes. I’m going to be extra careful with my comments..since this is the job for the prosecuters. LOve to the family and extended family (friends) Just wanted to set this ridiculas comment straight. RIP Zippy. and peace will come. Y’all have to answer to God, His authority superceeds any Judge or Jury. The Mercer Family

  32. copper says - Posted: April 22, 2013

    Bars usually go out of their way to handle their own problems rather than call the cops. An appearance on the police “blotter” usually leads to a personal appearance from the ABC and a careful examination of their liquor license. “Bouncers” are just a better investment for them all the way ’round.

  33. fromform says - Posted: April 22, 2013

    boycott the ‘parade’ is an alternative if we do not want to be associated with c. slowroller’s illiterate blather.

  34. 'LagginVW says - Posted: April 22, 2013

    Ol slowroller is just here to stir up stuff. He put a bunch of b.s. in the original story’s comments also. Some people just NEED attention no matter if its good or bad! Will you, Mr. roller, have you little parade party there when its called Zippy’s?? Probably be a good idea if you didn’t. Know this, just because there are a bunch of old VW’s parked out front, DOESN’T mean there’s a bunch of burnt out hippys inside!! Love you Zip!

  35. lyndsey new says - Posted: April 22, 2013

    Rip zippy. This was truly wrong. And justice will prevail. I have grown up in Ripon and have family in NV. I’ve spent alot of time in Tahoe and lived in Dayton for years. Tahoe people are good kind people do what’s right and boycott mo’s. That bar needs to be closed and renamed zippy. Ripon is a small town we all grew up together and we all know each other. To lose one of our own to such hate and not care of life was heart breaking. Our community felt it hard and banded together for zippy and his strong family. I know IM my heart that they will get true justice.

  36. jod says - Posted: April 22, 2013

    First the illegal alien part in this case, does matter. I hate when people blame stupid people’s mistakes on things that could have been avoided but no matter their legal status, mo and his supporters are all a bunch of punks. To say that’s your home bar and your going to support peace? Shut that up. Zippy got drunk for his birthday, at a bar. And was killed by a bunch of pieces of trash that have such useless lives of their own, they need to make others lives worse to feel good. RIP zip..

  37. Amanda mendonsa says - Posted: April 22, 2013

    The comments that some people are leaving are horrendous. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves. I’m sure on your birthdays none of you ever have a few too many. He was celebrating his birthday and had every right to have a good time. What happens was an awful tragedy. For which the bouncers and owner are resposuble for. I pray to God justice is served and the family has peace. Rip zippy

  38. Rebecca says - Posted: April 22, 2013

    Hey Chief,
    “No” your grammar. “Know” “no”. Just as lame as your argument about this case.

  39. Local says - Posted: April 23, 2013

    Safety of customers is the responsibility of the owner. The owner should have a large amount of culpability in this death of the customer. The owner also hires illegal aliens? C,mon Mo…

  40. barf12 says - Posted: April 23, 2013

    My personal opinion. I live right around the corner from Mo’s , but haven’t been there too often. But it is a great local bar. This Mr. Zippy
    was one of thousands of drunken tourists that infest our community every day. If this Mr. Zippy initiated the first physical contact, then his death is totally and completely his fault. No other facts matter. If he hadn’t died on the floor, he would have jumped in his car and killed someone else. Maybe me, maybe you, or your son or daughter.

  41. barf12 says - Posted: April 23, 2013

    Very funny. I guess this site has a filtering program that will delete many or perhaps all offensive wording. The word I was attempting to use involves a cross between a horse/donkey. Sorry for Mr. Zippys death. Perhaps he should have stayed and drank with friends in Ripon.

  42. you should know says - Posted: April 23, 2013

    Patrick Penaranda says – POSTED: APRIL 20, 2013
    Hi my name is Patrick Penaranda. Little brother to Derek “ZIPPY” Penaranda

    My brother was asked to leave the bar for for taking his shirt off. Not because he was a drunk [****]. I saw him outside the bar and he asked if I could go in with him so he could close his tab. I said yes of course. We went in and stood in line to close out his tab and leave. He was a little upset because Mo had previously crossed words with him early that night and had said some insulting things to him. My brother knocked him out, broke his face and put him in a short lived coma. Was Zip wrong in that, yes. Did the staff have a right to detain him , yes. Did they have right to kill him, no.

    When the fight broke out, I ran for Zippy as any brother would do. I was instantly knocked out by another patron who struck me across the head with a beer bottle. When I came to, my brother was beside me getting beaten, not restrained by at least four or more people. I instantly jumped up to defend him. Within a flash I was beat by four staff members. I screamed ” I haven’t done anything!” One man looked me in the eye ant told me to shut the —- up. he kicked me directly in the throat and then proceeded to stomp my face with his boot. I then noticed Zippy unconscious next to me as he was still receiving a beating. I heard people screaming, he needs CPR. One yelled let me help him. At that point another staff member chased away citizens who where willing to help. He had threatened them with a taser.

    I saw my brothers lifeless body lay next to me.I Tried desperately to save him. So did his friends and other patrons They could not get him because of the man with a taser.

    At that point instinct kicked in. I had a blood fury seeing my dead brothers body next to mine. Keep in mind I was attacked by a patron and received a beating from the staff for it. Instead of there protection. I was able to fight of two staff members before they where able to begin beating me for a second time. I tried with my life to save my brother. They continued to beat me and kick my face. Two men tried breaking my arm. When they realized I was tough as nails they held me down and tried to choke me to death. A young lady in the crowd ran forward and laid her head next to mine as I was being choked and kicked. She told me to try and stay calm, she moved her hand up and down in a slow rhythm and told me to breath at that pace so I would not panic and choke to death. Ultimately that saved my life.

    As I sit here in tears, reading what bad things people have to say about what happen. I can only think of how the last person my brother ever talked to was me. He asked me to help him. And I Quote Zippy – “Brother, help me”

    I tried brother, I tried with my very life.

    When I think of Zippy the first memory that comes to mind Is painful. It is the memory of me having to step over my dead brother as I was being arrested for- Getting knocked out by a patron and beat by the staff

    Zippy was dead on the seen only to be revived into a vegetative state coma that eventually killed him again. He was beat to death on his 30th birthday next to his little brother, beside his love and in front of friends being kept back by a man with a taser.

  43. 4-mer-usmc says - Posted: April 23, 2013

    barf12:

    In case you never noticed, South Lake Tahoe has been a tourist and party destination for decades and decades. If you consider tourists, our main source of revenue, an infestation, why do you continue to live here? I would say that your comments resemble that of a donkey, but I don’t want to insult the donkey.

  44. Jake says - Posted: April 23, 2013

    What really makes me mad about this case is that particular bar always has the police called over to them for illegal activity. So why is it still open? Now someone has been tragically killed and yet the owner, MANISH PATEL “MO”, is still seen out drinking and living life day to day. He was heard running his mouth that night and imagine that, he isnt in any trouble. People need to remember not all the facts are out there and keep into consideration how many time bouncers run in not knowing the full scope of the situation. In this case, seeing their boss laying on the floor (although knowing MO was hammered) of course their going to defend their boss, NOT that they were right to use such force. But when the smoke clears, the owner isnt just this poor innocent victim. He was drinking the whole night, like usual, and thought ZIP didnt pay. Its so sad that the people involved like the bouncers families, most importantly Zips family and fiance, are the ones paying for all this while the owner again is out every other night partying! Have some class, although he’s never been known for that. This whole situaution disgusts me! All locals know it pays to have connections in this town, Mo takes it to a whole other low, just like the illegal alien hires, MO cuts corners, its a FACT. If he would follow the rules people wouldnt get hurt, or in this case KILLED! His staff should have been properly trained, not just friends he called to SAVE $. Pathetic.

  45. Mick says - Posted: April 24, 2013

    After reading the grammatical and spelling errors that riddle the predominance of the comments…South Lake Tahoe is and will forever be the “Community of Mo”.

  46. protest the mo and bike ride event says - Posted: April 24, 2013

    rip zip . PROTEST THE MO’S OF SOUTH LAKE . WORLD WIDE THIS WILL BE KNOWN .

  47. 4-mer-usmc says - Posted: April 25, 2013

    To: ****:

    “After reading the grammatical and spelling errors that riddle the predominance of the comments…South Lake Tahoe is and will forever be the “Community of Mo”.”

    Your above comments make me sorry that you’ve lumped all of South Lake Tahoe into one category. I assure you that is not the case.

    From: A South Lake Tahoe Resident

  48. Jake says - Posted: April 26, 2013

    Hey ****, this isn’t a grammar class! And seeing as how you seem to think you’re on a higher level than everyone else, I’m left pondering why in the world you waisted ANY energy on us “lesser” people! If you had a brother, fiance, friend, or someone close to you beat to death WOULD YOU REALLY GIVE A **** ABOUT HOW THE SPELLING WAS ON A FORUM? People to need to remember what is important, JUSTICE FOR ZIP!!
    Thank you **** for making Tahoe look even worse, let me guess your related or know MO!! As a 30 yr local, I hope tourists, especailly ZIPS family and friends, realize there is only a small # of jerks in tahoe and most of them are at MOS. :) your welcome.

  49. ****** says - Posted: May 1, 2013

    Darwin would be proud of the situation. Bars are last place where natural selection can take place. To me bar owners are hero’s. They provide a place where people can be human. So now everyone is all mad because a human made a decision and other humans reacted. Given the place where it happened (a bar) no one should be surprised. How many good decisions are made at a bar? Not as many as bad decisions. You don’t like what happened there then go open your own bar. Until then your opinion is uneducated.

  50. Jeff Sanford says - Posted: May 2, 2013

    Reading all of these comments are unbelievable
    to me . Zippy was my nieces boyfriend and was there for his Birthday made a bad desion Yes he did but did not need to be beaten to death I was a bouncer when I was younger and dealt with people every night that had drank to much got out of control But that was the job and never had to beat someone to death to get them to leave. As for the people that Mo Patel hired to work for him are illegals or not should not be the issue the fact that they beat Zippy to death and stopped people from helping him after he was not breathing is wrong and they need to be put in prison for there actions period. No one deserves die the way he did .

  51. Another local says - Posted: May 8, 2013

    Patrick Penaranda’s description of what happened is exactly what I heard from a friend who were there that night. His brother was clearly in the wrong for punching the owner, but the bouncers who subsequently beat him into unconsciousness and prevented people from helping Zippy are going to go to prison for a long, long time.

    The state of California requires by law that all bouncers, in house security guards, and similarly employed individuals complete an approved training course and get a PSO license. Failing to complete this course can result in fines for individuals and establishments of up to $5,000. If one of these bouncers has an immigration hold on him, it doubtful he would passed the background check that PSO (Private Security Officer) Card requires.

    If these bouncers were true professionals, they would have detained Zippy and waited for the police to turn him over to them.

    I used to go to Mo’s, no longer.

  52. family says - Posted: May 10, 2013

    Justice for Zippy!!! He did not deserve to be murdered. His brother did not deserve to be beaten. I’m from El Dorado County. I know the Judge handling this case. Judge Wagoner is the toughest Judge in the County. He will see the truth. Everyone has a little “too” much fun on their birthday, that’s why Bars have Security. Unfortunately for the family, Zippy’s birthday was not celebrated in the right place.

  53. missing you everyday says - Posted: May 15, 2013

    I witnessed my best friend zippy be beat to death by the employees of Mos. Not only that but I was also told by one of the bouncers that if i didn’t hold back his fiancé who was trying to help him that both of us would be arrested. They even threatened to taser another one of our friends. We were forced to sit and watch all of this go down before our eyes. Ill never forget this and it has left a scar on all of our hearts. I appreciate all of the news this is getting and hope that locals will continue to talk about it and will no longer support this establishment.

  54. 4-mer-usmc says - Posted: May 16, 2013

    Chief Slowroller:

    “Meet at South Shore Bikes at the Y in South Lake Tahoe and then pedal to Mo’s Place on May 16 starting at 4pm. The spirit bike parade is put on the Slowrollers Bike Club. (Last year’s event did not set a Guinness World Record because cyclists could not stay in a straight line.) Mark Cutright is unapologetic for planning to end his May 16 bike ride at the site of a lethal bar fight. Photo/LTN file.”

    Well Chief, it’s starting to look like someone bigger that either one of us is going to rain on YOUR parade.

  55. 4-mer-usmc says - Posted: May 16, 2013

    missing you everyday:

    Please know that there are a lot of good people in Tahoe who think what happened to your friend was not right and we’re not forgetting about what was done to him.

    It’s raining today in SLT. This is the day that the Spirit Bicycle Parade is supposed to take place and end at Mo’s. Looks like someone with whom Zippy is well connected is going to rain on their parade.